Speedy Gonzales Zips Around Congress
July 26th, 2007 | by demon princess | Published in Corruption in Govt | 12 Comments
With Permission: Micah Wright/Propaganda Remix
Update: The psychedelic, kaleidoscopic, ever-changing world of ‘Berto’s DOJ:
Since ‘Berto’s Tuesday testimony, all the news agencies have set about trying to confirm his surprise testimony that the spying program he tripped himself up testifying about once before was, really a program not heretofore disclosed, so, er ~ he wasn’t technically lying to Congress the 1st time.
Everybody finds that, um, he was. At least the Congresspeople he claims were briefed about it say it was the Terrorist Surveillance Program 1st reported by the New York Times that they were briefed upon, not the unnamed “other program” he said he couldn’t talk about.
Still, through a spokesman, ‘Berto, like his boss, stays the course when confronted by evidence of reality. And, we dare speculate, will be able to rely on the boss’s exertion of executive privilege if Congress has the chuztpah to try to get to the bottom of it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19961956/site/newsweek/
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‘Berto, appearing before Congress today, finally got the castigating tongue-lashing from Leahy, Specter, & others we’ve all been righteously hoping for ~ & had the sense to keep the shitty smirk off his face this time, but all else seems to remain fundamentally unchanged ~ that is to say, stonewalling, when it doesn’t suit his agenda to testify.
But he did come up with a few surprises nonetheless, as a result of others’ testimonies. For instance, he did suddenly remember the meeting with Monica Goodling in his office, wherein, as she said, he told her what his recollection of events surrounding the dismissed attorneys general was (*in advance*), & he also defended his visit (in his capacity as WH counsel) to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft’s hospital bedside, again, the direct result of James Comey’s testimony.
And in that case, he reassured a worried nation, everything he had previously said about there being no concerns about the legality of the spying programs they sought to get a gravely ill & heavily sedated man to approve was true, because (*here’s the bombshell*) he wasn’t talking about the spying program the NYT unearthed, but another one ~ moreover, the “Gang of Eight” Congresspersons who sit on the exclusive little committee that Bushco will actually deign to brief on such sensitive matters of national security all agreed that would continue, with the inference that it was legal.
But at least one of the Committee members begs to disagree:
“…Gonzales reiterated today that the dispute was not about the program that Bush described [the program 1st reported by the NYT] .Gonzales also said he misspoke during a news conference in June, when he said it was the same program.
“Gonzales said an emergency meeting was held on the afternoon of March 10, 2004, with the so-called “Gang of Eight,” which consists of the bipartisan leadership of the House, Senate and both intelligence committees. Gonzales said congressional leaders agreed that the intelligence activity should continue, and he and Card traveled to George Washington University Hospital that evening to visit Ashcroft, who was recovering from gall bladder surgery.
“‘Mr. Comey had informed us that he had not approved continuation of a very important intelligence activity, despite the fact that the department had approved that activity over the course of two years,’ Gonzales said. ‘The consensus in the room was that we should continue the activities, at least for now. . . . We felt it was important that he knew of the opinion of the leadership.’ Gonzales acknowledged that, as Comey testified, Ashcroft declined to overrule Comey.
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W. Va.), who at the time was ranking member of the Senate Intelligence committee, said there was no consensus among the ‘Gang of 8′ about the legality of the program, nor were the congressional leaders ever expected to give their approval to the program.
‘”He once again is making something up to protect himself,’ Rockefeller, now committee chairman, said of Gonzales.”
Elsewhere in the hearing, to charges that the Department of Justice is dysfunctional & paralyzed under his command, “He disputed…that morale in the Justice Department has plummeted under his leadership, saying that morale can best be measured by ‘output.’ The department’s output in the last six months has been ‘outstanding,’ he asserted.
“I’ve decided to stay and fix the problems,” he said in response to a question.
Despite “…withering criticism from the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), and from its top Republican, Sen. Arlen Specte (Pa.)”:
“‘The attorney general has lost the confidence of the Congress and the American people,’ Leahy said. He said the administration ‘has squandered our trust’ and told Gonzales bluntly, ‘I don’t trust you.’ Specter said there was ‘evidence of low morale’ at the Justice Department and blasted what he described as Gonzales’s lack of ‘personal credibility.’ He called the department ‘dysfunctional.’
More to the point, “Specter raised the prospect of calling for a special prosecutor to press a potential contempt-of-Congress citation over the White House’s refusal to provide certain documents and sworn testimony regarding the firing of nine federal prosecutors last year. He denounced the Bush administration’s stand that it would prohibit the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia from pursuing a contempt citation.
‘”Now if that forecloses a determination of whether executive privilege has been properly imposed, then the president in that manner can stymie congressional oversight by simply saying there is executive privilege,’ Specter said. That would spell the end of congressional oversight and take the controversy ‘to a really incredible level,’ he said.
“‘Now we’ve been exploring some alternatives,’ Specter said, noting that “the attorney general has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor.’ He told Gonzales, “You’re recused, but somebody else could do it.
“Specter added, ‘We also have the alternative of convening the Senate and having a contempt citation and trying it in the Senate.’
“Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee announced that it will press toward a constitutional showdown with the Bush administration over the U.S. attorney firings scandal.
Rep. John Conyers Jr.(D-Mich.), chairman of the committee, said it will vote on Wednesday on contempt citations for the White House chief of staff, Joshua B. Bolten, and former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers. Both refused congressional demands for information on the dismissals after President Bush invoked executive privilege.
“The move puts House Democrats on a legal collision course with the White House, which said last week that it will not allow the Justice Department to prosecute executive branch officials for being in contempt of Congress.
“Gonzales’s promise to remain in office comes as many Justice Department employees say they are dispirited and have little confidence in their politically wounded leader.
“Most members of Gonzales’s senior staff have resigned or are on the way out. Several outside candidates turned down chances to be considered for the job of his deputy, and more than a half-dozen other top positions remain filled by temporary appointees. Some of the department’s key legislative priorities — including intelligence law revisions and anti-crime proposals — also have bogged down because of the fight with Democrats over the prosecutor firings…’It obviously has a serious impact,’ said [a] former official, who would discuss the department’s internal workings only if not identified.
“Many lawmakers, including some Republicans, have said that Gonzales should resign…”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072400207.html?nav=hcmodule
For more on the lengthy hearing, see WaPo commentary by Dana Milbank: “With Senate & Gonzales, Familiarity Breeds Contempt,” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072402028.html
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July 26th, 2007at 2:14 am(#)
My dear mum always said to tell the truth..the only rationale she used was that you can’t keep lies straight..and she was right. If they keep bringing Gonzo back in front of all these committee’s he has to trip himself up..as he apparently did in front of the Senate committee Tuesday.
Dana Milbank has always been a good journalist..lately I am becoming quite fond of him on KO’s “Countdown” too. I think I might have a little bit of a crush on him..but you tell anyone and I will deny it DP
July 26th, 2007at 2:47 am(#)
Well said Demon…you got him dead-on…one can only dream! Work that Demon magic of yours and you might bring down that house of phony cards!
July 26th, 2007at 3:10 am(#)
Hey, you guyz get up really early, don’t you? (I won’t tell anyone about your crush, Dusty. I have a crush on Jon Stewart myself).
July 26th, 2007at 3:35 am(#)
I stay up really late at night. It’s my catch up time. I sleep in the morning…rather like a vampire. Jon Stewart is a great, funny guy…and probably great to converse with. But he does have a way with intoning things and some mighty special looks at the camera. Tonights show with Gonzo had me laughing quite loudly…much to Mr. Sumo’s disgust. He’s not a laffer type!
July 26th, 2007at 6:30 am(#)
I went to sleep at 9pm, so I was up in the middle of the night..my usual modus operandi.
I really look forward to what unfolds now with GonzoGate DP and your take on everything. Do you agree that Leahy seems sharper than Conyers? I feel Conyers just doesn’t seem to have the same level of ..I don’t know..expertise..or that he’s as pissed off about being jerked around as Leahy is.
July 26th, 2007at 11:45 am(#)
Leahy and Conyers are both being very lawyerly- very cool…collected…and Leahy acts like someone that knows what is coming next. Conyers too in the Contempt Vote yesterday- very calm…..What shocked me about the Gonzo hearing yesterday was that Everyone was treating Gonzo like a spolied rottenlying teenager who better damn well get his facts in order….I thought that it was extremely telling at the very end when Spector reminded him again that Perjury carries 5 years…and that he better check his transcripts and previous testimony for mistake…errors…
And they all picked up on the NEW lie that fell out about Strongarming Ashcroft….and there for the gang of 8 business, he sat and lied over and over, but this time he was told that he was not credible- at all.
What just eats at me- this lying sniveling sack of something stuck to the bottem of a shoe is in Charge of JUSTICE and TRUTH in the Country….totally Horrendous….
July 26th, 2007at 11:46 am(#)
D.Princess- How rude of me- I meant also to tell you that this post was great- consise and yet also illuminating…great job…and yes, I hope we will keep covering Gonzogate- and that it does NOT melt away…
July 26th, 2007at 12:44 pm(#)
From the Dakota Peoples”…we believe that the deliberate liar is capable of committing any crime behind the screen of cowardly untruth and doubling dealing,the destroyer of mutual confidence was sumarily put to death, that the evil might go no further”. Great way of dealing with a disease that spreads unchecked ..Thanks for this post
July 26th, 2007at 3:14 pm(#)
Thanks, all, & Enigma, for the kind comments. Sagefever, I really like that saying by the Dakota–they should know. What astonishes me is that ‘Berto is so frankly bold about it.
I have no doubt that this Administration has more than 1 spying program going on–so that part of the equation rings true to me, & of course, he can say, if pressed, that he couldn’t talk about it in open testimony, but lying & saying instead that it was the Terrorist Surveillance Program (that Congress was briefed about only AFTER the New York Times outed it) was a supremely foolish thing to do. However, better to acknowledge the one program & claim it’s limited only to people who have international communications with suspected Al-Queda than to acknowledge the controversial data-mining programs that Wired & other techies say has been going on, or the fact that they’ve been broadly monitoring “subversive” elements at home–very broadly defined as anybody who publicly disagrees with ANYTHING this Administration does.
I don’t know about you all, but I often get visits from the DOJ to my site, Moron Cowboy.com, & to my great surprise, after running a routine spyware check on my computer, found several “rootkits” that enable complete examination of a computer’s contents–everything. There was in fact a post on the very topic over on that site Dusty was talking about the other day. (Have to go back & remind myself of its name).
I have no doubt that if it were all to come out, it’d put Nixon’s spying on “political enemies” to shame, & for the exact same reasons–they’re using the “terrorist threat” as a convenient excuse to expand domestic spying beyond anything Nixon could have come up with in his most paranoid-delusional fantasies. That’s my hypothesis, anyway.
And what will Congress do about it? We’ll see. Conyers, I think, is being more circumspect since Nancy Pelosi shut him down. Leahy is doing the most & loudest growling & grumbling, but we’ll see if the rhetoric even begins to match the action. That is, whether Democrats realize that their political lives are on the line right now, too! It’s going to take some serious cajones to stand up & press those contempt citations, but they absolutely must if they intend to save themselves.
July 26th, 2007at 7:30 pm(#)
Do you agree that Leahy seems sharper than Conyers? I feel Conyers just doesn’t seem to have the same level of ..I don’t know..expertise..or that he’s as pissed off about being jerked around as Leahy is.
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Dusty:
I think Leahy is just pissed off because Cheney told that story that Leahy wanted to kiss him! I would be pissed too..
LOLMAO
July 26th, 2007at 8:36 pm(#)
It’s like Conyers is getting senile or some sort of dementia. Leahy seems to be quite sharp to me though.
July 26th, 2007at 9:18 pm(#)
I’m not counting the chickens until they are in the pan frying. Pelosi and Reid have told too many lies already.